Beer Chang

Doesn't matter to me too much either. I like if a bar has a menu with prices so I can order cheapest and if bars want to charge the same for all beers then I'll get one that's normally more expensive like a Heineken or SML for a change of pace.

Lots of people go to the Tiffany and Alcazar shows. Although transgenders inhabit the entire planet, the ladyboy scene is somewhat unique to Thailand. I think Aunt Mildred would enjoy buying a drink for a ladyboy and taking pictures if she knew where to go.

Anyone see it?

I know guys like that too. After the fact, there are things the government covers up but it's absurd to think our government planned the attacks.

At my old job I know quite a few people who had oral sex in the stairwells.

That website has a pretty good Pattaya street map too.

There's a virus going around, UPS virus. Conformed on Snopes, a site that confirms or debunks rumors. http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/ups.asp

Well, sometimes I drink Chang, I refer it in a glass with ice to water it down. Archa just seems like a poor user name and I only drink it cause it's cheap, 20 baht a t Friendship Supermarket.

Anyone traveling to Thailand would be remiss if they didn't visit a ladyboy bar IMO. Lots of options but in the Pattaya area the bar I'd recommend for the curious in Sally's on Soi 5 in Jomtien, not far from Immigration. It's a laid back bar with both ladyboys and genetic girls. Good music at the proper volume, a free pool table, the right vibe, and low prices.

Despite my user name, I voted Archa, as this is what I buy if available cause it's the cheapest. If all beers are priced the same I'll drink San Mig Lite as I like the slice of lime and rfeminds me of Corona. In practice I drink Tiger quite a bit since Archa is generally not available in bars.

So what's your favorite beer? Which beer do you drink the most?

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As much as Pattayans may complain about their baht bus drivers, they have it pretty good compared to Phuket.

I bet he does.

The USA has slavery 150 years ago. Times change and Africa hasn't caught up yet.

I don't know about all, but the redshirt movement has significant finacial backing from Toxin IMO. But whadda I know, just a falang.

Get a room! Oops they did.

I don't think 17 year old boys are harmed in any way by having sex with female teachers. I wish it happened to me when I was a high school senior.

Obama and Bush are like good cop--bad cop.

Where is this joint?

When I was in Bali, the people seemed to really like Obama.

Agreed.

The protesters will only tire when they stop getting paid to protest.

Seems to be adjusting OK. PAGE ONE DECEMBER 11, 2009 Bernie Madoff, the $19 Billion Con, Makes New Friends Behind Bars By DIONNE SEARCEY BUTNER, N.C. -- Bernard L. Madoff's life of country clubs and luxury homes ended when federal agents arrested him at his Manhattan penthouse apartment exactly one year ago. But he is adjusting to his new life behind rows of gleaming silver razor wire in this small Southern town. Inmate No. 61727-054 shares an unlocked cell at the medium-security prison at Butner Federal Correctional Complex with a younger man named Frank. He wears khaki prison garb and has been spotted walking on an outdoor track. He plays bocce, chess and checkers. He scrubs pots and pans in the prison kitchen. The architect of the biggest Ponzi scheme in history has served about five months of his 150-year prison sentence. WSJ's Dionne Searcey discusses Bernie Madoff's life in lockup. The 71-year-old Mr. Madoff also is salvaging something that disappeared in the outside world the moment his fraud was exposed: respect. "To every con artist, he is the godfather, the don," says an inmate interviewed earlier this week. Mr. Madoff has served about five months of a 150-year prison sentence for pulling off the largest Ponzi scheme ever. Losses suffered by Madoff customers are estimated at $19.4 billion. "All things considered, he's OK," says Ira Sorkin, Mr. Madoff's lawyer. "He still suffers deeply for what he did." A description of Mr. Madoff's prison life has emerged from interviews with current and former inmates at Butner and various lawyers, including some who have met with him in prison. Officially, Mr. Madoff is just another inmate in a federal prison that houses men convicted of crimes including embezzlement, bank robbery, espionage and drug dealing. Nancy Fineman, who represented investors in a suit against his wife, Ruth Madoff, interviewed him this summer. She says he mentioned chatting with fellow inmates such as reputed Colombo crime-family boss Carmine Persico and Jonathan Pollard, an American imprisoned after admitting to spying for Israel more than two decades ago. Other high-profile inmates at Butner include former Rite Aid Corp. vice chairman Franklin C. Brown, who was convicted of crimes tied to accounting irregularities at the drugstore chain. Prison spokeswoman Denise Simmons declined to comment on Mr. Madoff's life behind bars other than to say that all inmates are treated fairly. Several people in Butner (pop. 6,169) who run businesses frequented by correctional officers say guards have been told they'll lose their jobs if they talk to the media about Mr. Madoff. Mr. Sorkin declined a request to interview Mr. Madoff. View Full Image Philly.com Ex-convict K.C. White says he sketched Bernie Madoff in Butner prison. Butner Federal Correctional Complex has typical features of prison life, according to the Bureau of Prisons. Inmates rise at 6 a.m. and report for mandatory work duty by 7:30 a.m. An August prison log reviewed by The Wall Street Journal shows that he worked in a maintenance job at Butner at that time. Inmates are paid between 12 cents and $1.15 an hour, depending on the job, which could include groundskeeper, plumber or kitchen crew. Lights are turned off at 11 p.m. There are gangs and a thriving black market for smuggled luxuries, a current inmate says, such as liquor, shrimp, chicken and cigarettes, which can fetch $10 apiece. Inmates can manufacture military clothing, take Spanish classes and learn heating and air-conditioning repair. Internet access is strictly forbidden, so inmates rely on the word-of-mouth prison rumor mill called "inmate.com." The informal code of prisoner conduct is strict: Mind your own business. Don't try to find out anyone's inmate number because it could be used to determine a prisoner's criminal record, which is considered private. Don't walk uninvited into another inmate's "cube," or cell. Don't wake anyone who is sleeping. Don't change the TV channel when someone else is watching. Shortly after arriving at Butner in July, Mr. Madoff told Ms. Fineman and her law partner that he was fending off inmates who wanted to make a buck off his notoriety. "People wanted his signature because they wanted to sell it on eBay, so he wouldn't sign anything," she says. Back then, Mr. Madoff was sleeping in the bottom bunk and exercising every night by walking around the track. He didn't express interest in attending religious services, but told the two lawyers that he liked the food and people he had met in prison. "To me, it was all like he was on stage," Ms. Fineman says, comparing the interview to a performance. "He was well-spoken and you could tell he thought about what he was going to say. He's just used to being in command and telling his story." Some of Mr. Madoff's fellow inmates suspect he has money hidden somewhere and try to cozy up to him in hopes of learning its location. But correctional officers keep a close watch on Mr. Madoff and don't allow groups to crowd around him. "He looks like the rest of us doing time," says the inmate who asked not to be identified. "He just acts like a normal guy." Prison officials won't say who has visited Mr. Madoff, though one inmate says Ruth has made the 500-mile trip from New York. View Full Image Associated Press Bernie Madoff arrives at Manhattan federal court in March. A year after he was arrested at his Manhattan penthouse, he is adjusting to prison life at Butner Federal Correctional Institution in North Carolina Kenneth Calvin "K.C." White, whose prison sentence in Butner for bank robbery overlapped with Mr. Madoff's for several weeks this summer, says he met him in the line where inmates await medication. Mr. White is an artist who painted several murals throughout the prison. Mr. Madoff struck up a conversation, saying: "You're the guy who does all the pictures around here," Mr. White recalls. According to Mr. White, Mr. Madoff chatted about the fraud's aftermath, claiming he "carried" employees at Bernard L. Madoff Securities LLC for more than two decades, yet wound up with an astronomical prison sentence. "I guess he felt they turned their back on him," Mr. White says. Still, Mr. Madoff seemed proud, walking around the prison with his head held high. "He carried on like he'd been doing time for years," Mr. White says. Mr. Madoff asked Mr. White to paint his portrait, so the bank robber drew a fast sketch in the prison paint shop where Mr. Madoff worked at the time, according to Mr. White. Mr. Madoff told Mr. White he didn't want to be depicted in his prison khakis, Mr. White says, so he drew him in a suit and tie. Harlene Horowitz, who lost her Brentwood, Calif., home and other assets in Mr. Madoff's Ponzi scheme, says she thinks he should be in a tiny cell and barred from human contact. "For someone who lived so high, he can't be happy in his surroundings," she says. Write to Dionne Searcey at dionne.searcey@wsj.com

The ladyboy volleyballl competetion was held on Dongtan Beach