CrazyExpat Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 Banking in Thailand One aspect of Thai banking that becomes quickly noticeable is there often is no consistency. Different banks have different rules, regulations, and procedures. Sometimes that lack of consistency exists between different branches of the same bank. It is more of an annoyance than a serious problem, but often in one branch you will be told one thing and then something entirely different in another branch. Thai banks have main branches and mini branches. The mini branches are found mostly in shopping malls. The mini branches are quite convenient because they have longer hours than the main branches and are open every day, with the exception of certain holidays. The mini branches open when their mall location opens and usually remain open until about 9:00pm, depending on their location. Nearly every branch, even in small cities, has someone on staff whose English is acceptable. If you are to be in Thailand for on a long-term visa, such as a Retirement Visa, holding a Thai bank account is required. Many Thai banks no longer allow foreigners to open an account if they are in Thailand without a non-immigrant visa. There are still some, however, that allow you to open an account even if you entered Thailand on the 30-day privilege you receive upon entry at international airports. If one branch refuses to allow you to open an account, try another branch. Remember about the inconsistency. If you intend to retire in Thailand, but do not yet hold a Thai bank account, it can be quite a problem if you cannot find a bank that will allow you to open an account. However, if you apply for the Retirement Visa while still in your home country, provided that you are otherwise eligible, the visa will be granted without holding a Thai bank account. Once you hold the Retirement Visa you will be able to easily open an account at any bank in Thailand. All Thai banks permit opening an account with a minimum deposit of 500 baht. Upon opening an account you will be issued a passbook. The ATM card is called Visa Electron. There is a fee for the Visa Electron card. Most banks charge 200 to 300 baht for it. When it expires, the banks charge a fee for renewal, usually 100 baht. Banks that offer interest to a foreigner’s savings account usually offer only a very low interest rate. Thai ATMs are sophisticated and plentiful. Even the smallest towns will have ATMs. In larger cities they are virtually everywhere. If you make a withdrawal at an ATM at which you hold an account, there is no fee if you are within the province at which you opened the account. If you are in a different province, most banks assess a 25 baht fee when making withdrawals. If you make a withdrawal at an ATM other than your own bank’s machine, a 25 baht fee is assessed no matter where you are in Thailand. The Visa Electron card also works outside of Thailand. You can make withdrawals at most ATMs anywhere in the world. Most grocery stores, department stores, restaurants, and nearly anywhere in Thailand that normally would accept a credit card will allow you to pay with your Visa Electron card. PayPal now allows you to hold an account if your bank is a Thai bank. When registering for PayPal they ask for a credit card. The accept the Visa Electron card, which means you can have PayPal deposit funds into your Thai bank account. It takes 5 to 7 days for the funds to reach your account via PayPal. PayPal does not yet issue their ATM card for Thai-based accounts. If you go to an ATM representing your own bank, anywhere in Thailand, you can do much more than simply make withdrawals. You can do balance inquiries, even for other banks. You can pay bills, add time to your mobile phone, pay bills, and transfer funds to any Thai bank, including other banks. For example, if you hold an account with Kasikorn Bank, but wish to transfer money to a Bangkok Bank account, you can do so at any Kasikorn Bank ATM, but many banks restrict the hours in which those types of transactions can be done. The hours available for those types of transactions are usually 6:00am to 8:00 or 9:00pm, depending on the bank. At branch locations there are usually Cash Deposit Machines available. You can deposit cash into your own account or any other account. The machine checks the cash to verify the cash is genuine, not counterfeit. In most cases the funds are immediately available once the machine accepts the cash. In some cities that service is available 24 hours per day. In other cities that service is available only during restricted hours, even when it is the same bank. There are usually passbook update machines at branch locations. Depending on the bank, ATM withdrawals are limited to 20,000 to 25,000 baht per day. All Thai banks have online banking available. Some banks, however, permit online banking only if you hold a non-immigrant visa. Depending on the bank, establishing online banking ranges from quite simple to quite complicated. Once you have established online banking, you can check your balance and do transactions from anywhere in the world. Short of withdrawing cash, you can use online banking to do every kind of transaction that can be done at ATMs. Online banking also includes bill paying services. Billers that have contracted with the bank will have their names appear on a dropdown list. You select the company to which the bill will be paid. When filling out the form you will be asked for two reference numbers. Both reference numbers appear on the bill. Banks charge a 10 baht fee for each bill paid via their bill pay services. Some Thai banks have non-commercial branches in foreign countries. Bangkok Bank, for example, has a branch office in New York. That branch office has a routing number, which means that any funds you can receive by direct deposit can be sent to your Bangkok Bank account via the New York branch. You will normally receive the funds the same day they are deposited. Several banks now offer mobile phone services. If your mobile phone has Internet capabilities, the banks that offer such services provide secure services and allow you to fully access your account via mobile phone. You can check your balance, pay bills, top off your mobile phone time, and transfer funds to other accounts. Thai banks do not offer account insurance similar to the USA’s FDIC. It is advisable to be very careful when using an ATM. Make sure no one can see you enter your PIN. Change your PIN code on a regular basis, which can be done at an ATM. Do not let anyone approach you when using an ATM. If you use an ATM at night, try to use one in a well lit location with plenty of people around. If you are a regular traveler to Thailand or stay in Thailand on a long-term basis, then holding a Thai bank account is convenient and cost effective. Nearly every Thai bank assesses a 150 baht fee for transactions and withdrawals if the ATM card being used is a foreign ATM card. cc ThailandVisa.com 2009 Bob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prigas Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 Very useful information. Just one note though. Many banks allow you to withdraw more than 20,000 THB per day (up to 100,000 THB in some banks) as long as you arrange for it with the bank. I have a Kasikorn bank account and I have no problem withdrawing any amount up to 100,000 THB per day (in multiples of 20Ks). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Chang Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 Many Thai banks no longer allow foreigners to open an account if they are in Thailand without a non-immigrant visa. There are still some, however, that allow you to open an account even if you entered Thailand on the 30-day privilege you receive upon entry at international airports. If one branch refuses to allow you to open an account, try another branch. Remember about the inconsistency. Great info CE! Kasikorn has the reputation for being the easiest bank in which to open an account with a 30 day stamp but things can vary from branch to branch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wino Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 Great info CE! Kasikorn has the reputation for being the easiest bank in which to open an account with a 30 day stamp but things can vary from branch to branch. When I opened my bank account Kasikorn was my second choice. The first choice told me I had to go to immigration and receive some sort of permission. Went to Kasikorn Bank and no problems. I like the fact that Kasikorn has online banking service, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaifan Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 Thanks again for some very useful information. I was lucky in being able to open a KTB account with no difficulty. Since then I have opened several accounts with them always without any difficulty and have never encountered a visit when nobody on the staff speaks English. Though they charge a relatively small amount for some routine requests the Bank Charges, which enable Australian and British Banks to make such enormous profits don't seem to exist here. My only criticism is the low rate of interest but then again I suppose i wouldn't complain if I ever needed to borrow from them!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wino Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 Though they charge a relatively small amount for some routine requestsWhen I opened my account at Kasikorn, they charged me 200 baht for a Visa card. This card has the Visa logo on it but does not have your name on it. I have never used it in a shop but only in the ATM. I guess it is more like a debit card. I thought it was a one time charge but they debit my account 200 baht every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Chang Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 When I opened my bank account Kasikorn was my second choice. The first choice told me I had to go to immigration and receive some sort of permission. Went to Kasikorn Bank and no problems. I like the fact that Kasikorn has online banking service, as well. This is exactly what happened to me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wino Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 This is exactly what happened to me too.Many expats say Kasikorn Bank is the easiest bank for foreigners to open an account. I am glad I ended up at Kasikorn because they are friendly, provide good service, and have many branches and ATM's around Thailand. The online banking is also a big plus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Chang Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 Many expats say Kasikorn Bank is the easiest bank for foreigners to open an account. I am glad I ended up at Kasikorn because they are friendly, provide good service, and have many branches and ATM's around Thailand. The online banking is also a big plus. But as with most Thai banks I think there's a 20 baht charge if you withdraw money out of "zone". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wino Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 But as with most Thai banks I think there's a 20 baht charge if you withdraw money out of "zone". True, there is a nominal fee for using an ATM out of your zone. I am not sure what the charge is, but it is not much. I usually use my card in the area I opened my account and so no big deal for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvdkeyes Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 My bf was charged 60 baht for DEPOSITING money into his account out of zone and then 40 baht another time to withdraw money out of zone. He now has an account here where le lives now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wino Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 My bf was charged 60 baht for DEPOSITING money into his account out of zoneNow that is a ripoff! Is that Kasikorn Bank? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvdkeyes Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 No, it was SCB, now his new account is K-Bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 No, it was SCB, now his new account is K-Bank. Doesn't surprise me about SCB. Prior to this year, I wasn't charged for anything using my SCB account excepting for a charge (I think 50 baht) for using my ATM card out of zone. This past January, they started charging me for doing stuff in zone (such as getting my passbook updated - even when I did it myself on their machine) and everything out of zone. Later this week, I'm going to stop by my home branch of SCB in Chiangmai and have a direct chat with the manager about what they are or aren't going to charge me. If I don't like the answers I get, I'm also off to another bank. We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Chang Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 I needed letters for Immigration. Both Kasikorn and Bangkok Bank charged me 100 baht. I sort of remember being charged more last year but maybe me memory is fading? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvdkeyes Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 The end of last week I was in SCB and told the girl I wanted to register for online banking. She told me I could register online. When I got home I tried to register. Because I have a new passport since I first opened my account, I couldn't do it. I went to the bank today to get my passport info updated. The girl I talked to was very pleasant and understood right away what I wanted to do. She updated the information and guess what!!!!!! She took me to their computer and assisted me to register for online banking. It was easy enough. I told her what another girl had told me last week. She said, "Maybe new staff." I said "No, LAZY staff." She half smiled, but didn't say anything. For the life of me I will never understand how people like the one last week hold their jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wino Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 Seems to me, the banks worldwide went fee crazy. You sneeze in the bank and they want to charge you a fee!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaimo Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 This past January, they started charging me for doing stuff in zone (such as getting my passbook updated - even when I did it myself on their machine) and everything out of zone.One way to avoid the passbook fee is to go inside and have a teller update it. To date I have never been charged when I do it that way. I'm not surprised about out of zone fees. I think all the banks do that.I needed letters for Immigration.Both Kasikorn and Bangkok Bank charged me 100 baht.I sort of remember being charged more last year but maybe me memory is fading?Your memory is not fading. Bangkok Bank used to charge 200 baht for the letter. They reduced the price to 100 baht. The end of last week I was in SCB and told the girl I wanted to register for online banking. She told me I could register online. For the life of me I will never understand how people like the one last week hold their jobs. I think it didn't occur to the girl that your passport number may have changed. Still, there is no reason she couldn't have taken the five minutes to register you herself, especially since you made the effort to physically go to the bank. But I think you already know that the chances of getting the same answer from two different staff members of nearly any bank are quite remote. If they fired all the staff members who don't know what they're talking about, then many Thai banks would be self service. Be grateful that you were able to even get online banking. Several years ago when I tried to get online banking for one of my accounts it took 5 trips to the bank and 6 weeks before I finally had the online banking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvdkeyes Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 [quote If they fired all the staff members who don't know what they're talking about, then many Thai banks would be self service. Now, that sounds like an idea in the making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sangchai Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 Very useful information. Just one note though. Many banks allow you to withdraw more than 20,000 THB per day (up to 100,000 THB in some banks) as long as you arrange for it with the bank. I have a Kasikorn bank account and I have no problem withdrawing any amount up to 100,000 THB per day (in multiples of 20Ks). I think you can withdraw up to 100,000 BAHT per day because you are holding a Debit card which issued from Kasikorn Bank, right? If so, that's great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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