CrazyExpat Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 The U.N. refugee agency said on Tuesday it had asked Laos to grant it access to more than 4,000 Hmong asylum-seekers deported from camps in Thailand. In a statement, the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees also urged the Thai government to detail assurances it had received from the Laos communist government on future treatment of the Hmong, who say they face oppression if sent back. "The Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees has today formally approached the government of the Lao People's Democratic Republic seeking access to Lao Hmong who were deported from Thailand on Monday," the Geneva-based agency said. Some of those sent back were recognized by the UNHCR as having refugee status and needing international protection, it said. The expulsion sparked criticism from the United States and Europe. U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon was concerned about the expulsion of the Hmong, who "included individuals the Thai government had reportedly assessed to be in need of protection," his office said in a statement on Tuesday. Ban "regrets that these deportations have taken place in the face of appeals from the (UNHCR) and despite the availability of third country resettlement solutions for those recognized as refugees," U.N. spokesman Martin Nesirky said. Ban urged Thailand and Laos "to take all necessary steps to respect the rights of those concerned and to facilitate humane solutions," Nesirky said. Known as America's "forgotten allies," the Hmong sided with the United States during the Vietnam War and many fled Laos in 1975 when the communist Pathet Lao took power. Tens of thousands have since been resettled in the United States. The UNHCR said that despite Thailand's "long history as a country of asylum," it had deported the Lao Hmong from two camps, one in the northern province of Petchabun and another in Nong Khai in the country's northeast. "UNHCR was given no access to people in the first camp, while those in Nong Khai were all recognized refugees," it said. A Lao government spokesman said on Monday the concerns were groundless and the Hmong being repatriated were illegal migrants who would be housed in resettlement villages. Thailand and Laos reached an agreement in March to repatriate the Hmong. http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2009/12/29/world/international-uk-laos-refugees.html?_r=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wino Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Seems like the Hmong are getting a lousy shake. The UN demands are not unreasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Deported?!?!? For the few fans of Prime Minister Abhisit that remain in existence, you all know how truthful he is, don't you? Here's what was reported on Page 3 of the Bangkok Post today: "Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva insists the action was legal as the Hmong were not forced to leave Thailand." (emphasis added) Now that I think of it, I do recall those wily Hmong asking the Thai military for a free ride to Laos....NOT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wino Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 So many of the hill tribe people are taken advantage of and discriminated against. To have PM Abhisit say they were not forced to leave is a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Chang Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 hill tribe people Just wish they wouldn't intrude on my conversations to sell me junk all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wino Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 I don't think they know they are being rude and intrusive. Probably just trying to feed their family? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvdkeyes Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 I have no objections to vendors trying to sell me their wares as long as they aren't grabbing me as some of the tailors do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Chang Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Yup just trying to feed their family, but I suspect they're aware of their rudeness. Can't really blame them I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wino Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 I believe what we consider rude and intrusive may not be viewed the same way in other cultures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Chang Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Maybe. I stopped getting pissed off about these intrusions, and instead just smile and say mai ow khrap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvdkeyes Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 BC, I think that is the best way to handle it. No use in getting pissed off or being rude to the vendors who are just trying to eke out a living. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Chang Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Absolutely lvd! My New Year's resolution is even to smile at Indian tailors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvdkeyes Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 All of those Indian tailors are not Indian; I know of a few who are Nepalese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 The only time that I get irritated is if/when the touts physically touch me or grab me by the arm. That hasn't happened in a few years (it used to happen to me quite a bit a decade ago in the Patpong area of Bangkok). A lot of the hassle, I think, is caused by how you look. I don't tend to make eye contact with them anymore nor do I hopefully carry that "geez, I'm new to Thailand and looking around for something to do" look which is sure to get you hassled a bit. And looking them straight in the eye and saying no ("mai ao" - which effectively means "I don't want") also seems to stop the barrage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvdkeyes Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 I also don't like when they grab me or even extend their hand to shake hands. Who knows how many people's hands they have touched and what was on those hands. I feel like I am being rude when I don't respond to an extended hand, but I don't do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Chang Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 If time share people ask where you're from just say Russia and they leave you alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wino Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 I will never forget the awfull feeling I had when arriving in Cambodia and Indonesia many years ago. When a white face was seen getting off the bus or ferry, a mob of touts would surround you. Not a good feeling at all. I wonder if the movie stars feel the same way when they are faced with the many paparazzis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts